Monday, December 1, 2008

Quadiliacha Flyers 1993 - 1998, 2007

I have been preparing a Quadiliacha mega-post with Will Greene for this blog, and one of the main elements is Will's flyer collection, which I have scanned and included here. I will post all of the recordings, release artwork and an interview with Will in the next few weeks, but please enjoy a little trip through the gay nineties with Quadiliacha, and please leave comments on whatever memories you might have from these shows. Also, I don't have a year for some of these flyers, but all of these shows occurred between 1993 and 1999 for the exception of the reunions in 2007, so I just ordered the flyers by day and month. Let me know if you have the years for some of these.
January 8 and January 13, 1996 at the Godless Red house in Athens with Tres Kids, The 4 Squares, I Farm, Damad, Lazy Cain and Hot Water Music. Gray Kiser, B-Rad and Crystal Bradley lived in the Godless Red Athens house (an annex of the Atlanta Godless Red house with Jeff Jawk and Mike Mallory), and had some great shows, including these. One of the best was a Regicide show in which we lit off a homemade fireworks device called the Hell-Fire Chicken Tower and destroyed the carpet. Gray lost his deposit on that one.


January 11 (1997?) at Sea of Timeless Records in Sandy Springs north of Atlanta. I seem to remember things getting out of hand at this show. Either way, I don't remember them doing shows for very long.
January 13, 1996 at Godless Red house in Athens with Damad and Regraped. This is part of the flyers above, but was posted on the day of the show. I guess Lazy Cain and Hot Water Music cancelled.
February 25, 1996 at The Point with Broken, Levelhead and MFR. The Point did all ages hardcore matinee shows near the end of their existence, and let to some legendary shows (including this one). I wasn't at the show myself, but I seem to remember it being a wild time. Weren't a few of these bands banned from the Point after this?
March 25, 1994 at the Somber Reptile with The Queers and Car Vs. Driver. Classic mid-nineties homemade flyer. This is what they looked like before we got computers (and we were retarded). No deadheads allowed I guess.
March 30, 1997 at Full Circle with Assuck, Hot Water Music, The Trans Megetti and Ex Members Of. I am not sure where Full Circle was, but Quad and EMO were both Atlanta bands so it must have been somewhere in the region. Good lineup.
April 4 (1997?) at Under the Couch with Ex Members Of (ex-Act of Faith) and Downpour (ex-Broken). This is like the classic Somber Reptile hardcore shows moved a few streets over to the Georgia Tech Campus. Did The Rod make a guest appearance?
April 6, 1996 at 519 N. Ross (in Auburn) with Damad and Disillusioned. Total college town flyer, as evidenced by the different cover charges with or without keg access.
April 8, 1995 at The Wreck Room with Levelhead and Blindside. Be warned, Greg King will kill everyone who wasn't at this show.
April 29, 1995 at the Somber Reptile with Chokehold, The Difference and Act of Faith. Ricky Martin promotes hardcore.
May 5, 1994 with 7 Seconds, Broken and Stopper. Computers certainly took some of the business out of our homemade flyers.
May 9, 1997 at Dead Body House in Athens with Assuck and Tres Kids. There was some fast drumming going on at this show.
May 13, 1994 at Somber Reptile with Lagwagon, The Difference and Broken. Along with Lookout Records, Fat Records bands did a lot of touring in the Southeast during the 1994 time period, and the Atlanta bands played with all of them.
May 17, 1997 at 403 Chaos in Tampa with Scrotum Grinder and Andromeda. Computers are starting to be used for flyers in the 1996/1997 era, and you can see the design shift.
May 19, 1995 at The Driver Dome with Hal al Shedad, Fragment and Year Zero. I believe this is one of the only times Hal played with Quadiliacha, as there became so many local bands by this time that there started to be sub-scenes within Atlanta, and we drifted apart.
June 14 at the Somber Reptile with Levelhead, Act of Faith and Weston. Even though Weston is the out of town band, I'm sure Act of Faith headlined and packed the place out. During this time they were a bigger draw for Atlanta shows than any other hardcore band in the country.
June 21, 1997 at the Goat Farm in Ohio with John Bender, The Undesirables and The Feds. Quadiliacha hits the road for the Summer.
June 24, 1997 at The Loft in Chicago with Oblivion and Rustweiler. I never knew Oblivion myself, but Q seems to have played with them quite a bit.
June 24, 1995 at Gilman St. in Berkeley, CA with The Bollweevils, White Kaps, Levelhead and The Pomeranians. Playing Gilman St. in 1995 must have been something.
June 25, 1994 at the Somber Reptile with Propagandhi, Levelhead, Habeus Corpses and Smedley & The Space Cadets. 1000 Ken Saluzzi points for this show.
June 25, 1997 at The Legion of Doom (in Ohio) with FMD, Burned Up Bled Dry, Inept and Party of Helicopters. Quadiliacha 1997 Summer Tour.
June 27, 1997 at ABC No Rio in New York with Judas Iscariot, God Awful and MegaWeapon. Like Gilman St., another legendary venue of the era.
June 30, 1995 at Andy Stivers' house in East Lake with Jara and Inkwell. This was Inkwell's first show ever, if I am not mistaken.
July 4, 5, 6, 1997 at the Met Cafe in Providence, Rhode Island with Faithless, Charles Bronson, Lightning Bolt, Lycosa, Drop Dead, Paindriver, Lesion, McVeighs, Unsettled, Ojorojo, Bongzilla, Spazz, Grief, Force Field, Fit for Abuse, Voorhees, Mindflayer, Morning Star, Cattle Press, Saturation, Eat Shit and a few bands I can't figure out. What a fest.
July 5, 1997 at VFW Post 8692 in Colonie, NY with Spazz, Monster X, Devoid of Faith, Judas Iscariot, Dead Baby and Greyland. Show starts at 1:00 PM - remember those?

July 5, 1998 at 403 Chaos in Tampa with Los Crudos, Process Is Dead and Scrotum Grinder. This was a late-period show for them.

July 8, 1995 at Twisters in Richmond with Whirlybird, Christie Front Drive, Levelhead and One Nature. Whirlybird always booked Atlanta bands in Richmond. Great guys.

July 15, 1993 at Somber Reptile with Gauge and Car Vs. Driver. CVDs first show, and Quadiliacha's second. I seem to remember somebody dancing on stage during Quadiliacha's set, but to this day I have not been able to verify who this was.


July 19, 1996 at The Fireside Bowl in Chicago with Oblivion, Sleepasaurus, The Halflings, and The Crumbs. Loved playing there, but have never actually bowled.


July 20, 1998 at WMUC in Maryland with Shoutbus and De Nada. Another late-period Q flyer.

July 23, 1998 at QE2 on Central Avenue (where?) with Seein' Red, Palatka, 12 Hour Turn, Police Line and The Disenchanted. Seein' Red still plays in Amsterdam every month.

July 26, 1998 at Cafe Chaos (Montreal?) with Manner Farm, Face Up Reality and Blue Jacket Rebellion. Q 1998 Summer Tour continues.
July 27, 1996 at Common Ground in Long Island with Drop Dead, Devoid of Faith, Suffer, C.R., and Black Army Jacket. Cool flyer - Worship Your Hardcore God.
July 29, 1998 at 4120 Trumbull in Detroit with Palatka, John Bender and 12 Hour Turn. Nice Big Boys shout-out, but pretty amateur flyer in the 1998 computer graphic era. No Guns or Raver kids, which I guess is an issue at Detroit shows.

August 2, 1998 at Knights of Columbus Hall in Aberdeen (Ohio?) with The Adversives, 4th Grade Nothing and Kinship.

August 9, 1998 at Stage 4 Theater in Portland with The Adversives and Intifada. I like the creature on the flyer.

August 11 (1995?) at the I-Defy house with Hot Water Music, Swank and Walleye. $3 is a pretty good price for this lineup, and in Gavin's living room!

August 11, 1998 at House of He-Man in Boise with The Adversives, Classic A-Holes and Intifada.

August 14, 1998 at Gilman Street in Berkeley with Babyland, Wet Nap, Tres Kids and The Secretions. Another Quadiliacha show at Gilman St.
August 15, 1996(?) at the Somber Reptile with Oblivion and Catchpole. Check out the other upcoming shows on the flyer.

August 17, 1996(?) at The Somber Reptile with Voodoo Glow Skulls, Dog Pound and Levelhead. Voodoo Glow Skulls ruled the Somber Reptile during this era. I was playing elsewhere.

September 29, 1996(?) at Somber Reptile with Face To Face, Levelhead and Five by Nine.

October 5, 1996 at Unity 1605 (Birmingham?) with Exhaust and Tres Kids. I'm surprised Hulk Hogan is on only one flyer in this collection, but it's a good one. I remember Exhaust playing at Dottie's around this time and taking a walk around the neighborhood after soundcheck. They were subsequently mugged.

October 18, 2007 at The Drunken Unicorn with All Night Drug Prowling Wolves and American Cheeseburger. The big reunion show, which was a lot of fun. Plenty of footage on Youtube from this one.

November 6, 1998 at the Hardback Cafe in Gainesville, FL with Asshole Parade and Tres Kids. This must have been one of the last Quadiliacha shows. The Hardback was always a great place to play.

November 8, 1996 at The Dead Body House in Athens with Levelhead and The Martin Family. CD release show for the purple album.

November 8, 1997 at 403 Chaos in Tampa with I Hate Myself. Another great venue in the US. I like the flyer.

November 25, 1995(?) at Somber Reptile with NOFX and Face To Face. This show must have been packed.

December 8, 1996 at I-Defy House with Hickey and Tres Kids. Hickey was great, I never saw a band bum hardcore/emo kids out more.

December 12, 1997 at Magnifico House in Jacksonville with 12 Hour Turn, Cards in Spokes and Tres Kids. Jason still makes this face when he drums.

December 15, 1996 with Hickey and Tres Kids at the Capri Cinema. I have no idea in what city this show took place.

December 17, 1997 at Auto Styling International in Warminster Pennsylvania with Under Privileged Nation, Kill the Man Who Questions and The Jazz June.

December 19, 1995 at The Flag House in Tampa (Ybor City) with Order of Importance. This graphic was used for a Floodgate flyer at the Somber Reptile about a year before this. Where did it come from?

December 26, 1997(?) at The South West Community Cultural Center in the West End with Assuck, Hot Water Music, Reversal of Man, Rent America, Early Grace, Portrait and Tres Kids. What a show - how many of you were there?
Lastly, the Quadiliacha Summer tour schedule for 1996, up through the Midwest and down the East Coast. Good times.

Friday, November 28, 2008

God Don't Make No Junk

Sonn Av Krusher has a show Saturday Night the 29th (that's tomorrow) at the Drunken Unicorn with All Night Drug Prowling Wolves, Princess Thunderstorm from North Carolina and the great American Cheeseburger from Athens. This posting is not so much about the show, but the incredible flyers that Gray Kiser makes for our shows. Enjoy, and if you feel inspired come on out.

Also, we have some Youtube footage of our last show at the Star Bar here and here and here and here. Thanks to Hell Comes to Town for the video technology support mechanism. We'll also be playing with them on January 10 at the Drunken Unicorn, so mark your calendars.

December 2 Update: Thanks to everyone for coming out, and sorry about the amplifier explosion. It turned out to be a blown fuse, so no worries. Special thanks to American Cheeseburger, Princess Thunderstorm and All Night Drug Prowling Wolves for making us look like complete amateurs and putting on such a great show. We'll be playing this Friday night at Wonderroot with The Sunglasses and The Subliminator, so hopefully our amplifiers will work properly this time.

Monday, November 24, 2008

Spiney Norman - Inspiration from the Early 90s


Here is the download: Spiney Norman Discography

1-5 from "Draft Style" single
6 from Atlanta Hardcore Compilation
7-20 from "Cops n' Coffee" demo

In my early high school days, I was friends with a few girls in my neighborhood that were into punk music, and they had a circle of friends (one of whom I later married) who were also into punk and personally knew some of the local bands out there. One of these bands was Spiney Norman, and after I heard a few songs of their "Cops n' Coffee" demo on the WREK punk show (I believe was called "Coup de Grace" at that time), they became my favorite band in Atlanta. A lot of their humor and inspiration came from Monty Python, especially their band name and the name of Spam their guitarist, but they were really absurd and funny guys. I got to know Spam the guitarist somewhat, as he later practised a few times with the Go-Steadys, but loved to play little guitar licks and noodles so much over our music, it just didn't work out. Greg the drummer was (and probably still is) the owner of Dagwood's Pizza on the corner of Holcomb Bridge Road and Spalding Drive in Norcross. I would have dinner there sometimes with my Mom and know that the dude behind the counter making pizzas was the drummer of an incredible band. Greg the singer was a little older than us, or at least he seemed to be at the time. He owned a house in the area of Dagwood's and also owned several guns. He was that guy you knew in your teenage years. Lastly John Paul the bassplayer was the first guy I knew who could properly grow a beard, and had this amazingly smooth, flowing bass style for hardcore music.

I saw them play many times, first at Milo's but then later at the Wreck Room and finally the Somber Reptile. They were a good bridge from the Gwinnett hardcore scene of Act of Faith, Crisis Under Control, etc. to the bands from other parts of town such as Quadiliacha and Midget Farmers. They lightened the mood at shows, and were great musicians and wrote really catchy songs. I never got the Cops n' Coffee demo back in the day, but luckily Steve Wishart transferred it to CD recently and sent it down for me to post. With 14 songs, it's like having a Spiney Norman album that was never released, but I remember every song from their live shows. Brian Kincheloe told me once that he recorded something like 30 songs with them right as they broke up, but the music has stayed all this time on reels, never to be released. They played several "last shows", and finally broke up around 1994 sometime, and they are sorely missed. The Gregs went on to form Lake Ponchatrain's Very Own Batch of Gimps with Brian Kincheloe from the Skats and Chuck Petrakopoulos from Jenkin's Ear, and released a tape on Moodswing Records, but I think the band didn't last more than a year or so. John Paul started playing in a band called Big John Trail and the Linda Lovelace Experience with Kasey Relford, who later played in Gaijin and Remuxers, and also released a tape on Moodswing Records but once again broke up after a year or so. I believe Spam moved to California, but I really have no idea. I haven't seen any of them in over ten years now, maybe I'll head over to Dagwood's and see if the Gregs are hanging out.

This is the back cover and lyric sheet for their only single. Spam thanks his guitar, Charlene.

Tuesday, November 4, 2008

Free Show Thursday with your friends Sonn Av Krusher at the Star Bar


I was remarking to my bandmates how I have actually seen this flyer posted around town, most notably in Decatur outside Java Monkey next to a flyer for the band "Cute Is What We Aim For" that had been changed to "Gay Is What We Aim For". I never have my camera for situations like these, but when you have a name like that, what do you expect? Anyhow, we're playing a free show with Rizzudo, who are one of the only bands still around from the turn of the century Atlanta scene. In fact Chocolate Kiss played our last show with them in 2002, so it will be good to play with them again. The Durant brothers are the best. Also on the bill is The Forever War, but my understanding is they had to bail out due to an out of town job interview for Ben. Jobs are certainly important in these times. Miles From Pangea are playing, who should be interesting as well as Grand Prize Winners. Thanks Pine Magazine for giving us the show, and I hope to see everyone there.

Friday, October 31, 2008

The Difference 1992 Demo


Here is the recording for download: The Difference 1992 Demo

This was one of the last old demo tapes in my archive, so while everything is hooked up I transferred it to CD and uploaded it here. Now I can put my tape player away and start working on the mini-discs. I saw the Difference a few times during their day, but it is all a vague memory to me, and I couldn't tell you really any details at the moment. A lot of these early shows at the Wreck Room, Milo's, Somber Reptile all run together. Many bands played, there were pits and stage-diving, there was a lot of pointing and yelling of choruses, I'm not sure which ones were the Difference. They were right in middle of the Duluth hardcore scene with Crisis Under Control, Act of Faith, etc., but I personally didn't know the guys at all, so maybe some comments can share some info on their history and current exploits.

With regards to the music, listening to the Atlanta Hardcore Compilation 7", I was impressed by how professional their song sounded (and especially the drumming, which was pretty top notch in this style), but I think this demo might have preceeded that recording as it is definitely rougher and has not developed nearly as much. I'm not sure if it was recorded at Sleepless Nights, but it could also have been done on a 4-track in their basement, it's hard to tell. Most of the recordings from back then were pretty rough, no matter where it was done.

Thanks to Will Greene for the flyer - who else?

Monday, October 27, 2008

Go Back To Europe - The Early Musical Explorations of Alex LaRoche and Travis Thatcher


Here is the download:

Go Back To Europe - Live At WREK 2002-12-17
Go Back To Europe - How The West Was One

You may know Travis Thatcher as the yank in Judi Chicago (playing Friday night at the Drunken Unicorn), and you may know Alex LaRoche from who knows where but currently as a resident of San Francisco working for a company called Apple (and getting married on November 16th - Congrats!), but before all this they were a postpunk electronic (or whatever you call it) duo named Go Back to Europe based out of our fair city of Atlanta.

I played briefly in a band with Alex called Ananke back around this time (with Benjamin Lukens from The hal al Shedad and Sean Greathead from Wheeljack), and mainly knew him as that red-headed guy I would see at Under the Couch running the soundboard and taking money at the door. Travis was a guy I knew through the Lukens brothers, but didn't really get to know well until Noot d' Noot started playing shows with Judi Chicago earlier this year. Travis also introduced me to his other brilliant band Recompas, which seems to be more of a progression from the Go Back To Europe stuff - especially when you listen to the Live at WREK session included here. Also, I'm not sure if the pink panties are in reference to the Athens supergroup, but you might have to ask them about that.

For some reason, I seem to bond well with the musicians coming out of Georgia Tech. I would like to say it is due in part to WREK, as it is my favorite radio station in Atlanta, and one that really promotes musical diversity, and thereby exposes their students to new and interesting music that they in turn make themselves. It's great to see new generations of local musicians experimenting with their music and developing a diverse musical pallette resulting from their exposure to WREK programming. I have discussed this with Gavin before, but I think we are really lucky to have a radio station such as this in our town, whether we appreciate it or not.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Flakscrampe Tramauntra - Unreleased Split LP


Here is the download: Flakscrampe Tramauntra

Chris Van Etten has been providing some of the latest stuff posted on this blog (e.g. Wheeljack demo, 42 Live at WREK, Chapman Park demo), and during the process I have been learning about some of his previous bands. He is currently the bassplayer for the Carbonas, but one of his earlier bands was called Flakscrampe Tramauntra, or Flak Scrampe Tramauntra as three words, I'm not sure. Jon Lukens forwarded me their five song recording recently, and was really blown away, especially concerning the time period from which it came from. In the late 90's, the general tendency for DIY bands was to get more academic and cerebral in their writing and presentation. Song structures became more complicated, band names became more complicated, and everything was becoming purposefully impenetrable. This is a technique by which bands can sometimes become popular by making music that is difficult for people to understand, and thereby earning respect for the intellectual exercise. These guys took where they were coming from and added a visceral element to it, and greatly improved the output. I look at it like a Wheeljack-type band (maybe because they had the same singer), but throw in some Born Against, maybe some Skull Kontrol and you get these guys. I never got to see them during their era, which is unfortunate, but it shows that there are good bands all over the place, and maybe they don't have the connections to get the big shows, but you should not judge a band by their popularity, rule one.

Here are some details provided by Chris himself:

Flakscrampe Tramauntra 1996-1999

Membs: Scott Rogers (vox), Phil Ritchie (guitar), Chris Van Etten (bass), Jeff Dilbeck (drums).

Initially Phil and I tried to be a two-piece using a drum machine, but that didn't work so Jeff offered to play drums. Our first few practices had Phil and I switching vocals, but Scott was itching to sing in another band (Wheeljack was active at this time), so we brought him in. Just as well, since he was a better vocalist/lyricist than me or Phil. This line up solidified in Nov 1996. Despite practicing regularly, we didn't play a show until July 1997. We played out sporadically until our last show on August 4th, 1999. All of the shows were either in Atlanta or Athens, I think there were 17 altogether. Because we played out so rarely, most of the shows were on the sloppy side. Sometimes we'd do really well, and once or twice we flat out sucked. Also, like I told you before, we didn't know how the hell to promote ourselves so often we'd wind up playing to just a handful of friends. Every once in a while we'd do something gimmicky like all wear hammer and sickle t-shirts or all shave our heads.

Musically, I guess we were inspired by the more interesting (read:arty) DIY bands of the mid 90's, as well as Nomeansno, NOU, the Steve Albini bands and older punk bands like Black Flag (the only cover we ever played in public was "No Values"). The straight-up punk influence was particularly important, because it seemed at the time that most bands were trying TOO hard to sound "advanced" and "nuanced" or whatever. Maybe this is too personal, but I thought it was stupid that you would look more out of place wearing a Meatmen shirt at a show than a fucking SMITHS shirt. I also didn't (and still don't) feel that retaining a solid punk influence and adapting interesting stylistic attributes couldn't go together. Too many people had poured the baby out with the bathwater. I don't mean to rant, but that had a lot to do with the ideology of the band. This is all in my opinion, the other guys may feel different.

We did some basement recordings and one song"The Lost Art of Dueling" wound up on a Food Not Bombs comp. The six songs we recorded in the studio were initially meant to be one side of a split LP with Action Porn, Josh Fauver's one-man band at the time. Around 2005/2006, an attempt was made to reignite the band. We all lived in different states, so we would email tracks to each other. These songs were electronically based and didn't really sound like the old material. This more or less fell through, but I think Jeff and Phil are still working together on stuff. As of right now, Jeff still lives in the Atlanta area, Scott is living in North Carolina (I think) and Phil is in the Navy, living in San Francisco.

For our name, Jeff and I just threw a bunch of syllables together out of frustration after hearing that Thoughtcrime, our initial moniker, had already been taken.

Monday, October 20, 2008

Thursday, October 16, 2008

More from 1999 - Good Friday Experiment at MJQ (1999-12-29)


Here is the download - The Good Friday Experiment 1999-12-29

This is a show recorded at MJQ back when bands actually played the main part of the club (and not the Drunken Unicorn). They were officially called Good Friday Experiment by this time, and not their original name, which was Beale Street Green (after the Big Star record).

This recording was of the short-lived 5-piece lineup of the band, including Marcus Lowe on drums, Mathis Hunter on guitar, Rich Morris on keyboards, Justing McNeight on guitar, and Ed Rawls on bass. I thought the picture of above of them playing MJQ as the original four-piece was from this show, but I guess I was mistaken. This was one of my favorite incarnations of the band, with a great mellow California-style twang running through it.

At this time we were just starting to experiment with quiet music in our lives, and these guys took it to a respectable atmospheric level. I remember "working the lights" on this show, and in the trance of the music kept everything so dim that they couldn't see their own equipment anymore. We used to have these light boxes at The White Lodge where I lived with Ed and Rich that would randomly dim different lights in the series at different times, creating a very soothing experience while listening to ambient records late at night. I tried to replicate that idea here, but it didn't really translate to a club environment.

Soon after this, Marcus moved back to Arkansas to live on a farm and raise a family, and the remaining members of GFE pushed on as a quartet with switched instruments (Mathis took the drums and Justin took over guitar and lead vocal duties). They released several CDs, etc. but this is one of the only recordings in this special state.

Enjoy the drone.

Tuesday, October 14, 2008

The Nite-Owls At Lenny's Are Not What They Seem


Sonn Av Krusher has a show coming up on Thursday at Lenny's. Gray Kiser is always the man with the flyer, so I felt it necessary to post it here. Feel free to come out - I'm sure we'll play first, so it will work with our elderly lifestyles.

Thursday, October 9, 2008

After Words - S/T LP and Live at WREK (February 2, 1989)


Here is the download - After Words album and Live at WREK

UPDATE: Steve Wishart knows way more about After Words than you or me, so check out his comments below. Also, he's the guy that originally transferred the Live at WREK session, so credit goes out to him for being such a voracious fan.

I decided it was time to transfer and upload the After Words album, and thanks to Skyward Eyes, I also have their Live at WREK set from 1989. I never knew the guys personally, but I would run into and talk to Brian the guitarist from time to time (one time I was next to him in line at the DMV) and he would give me little bits and pieces of information about them as they were a just a bit before my time. From what he told me, this record was actually their demo, and Amanda Mackaye from Sammich records (sister of Ian) convinced them to use it for their Sammich LP debut. He was disappointed at how that turned out, because they had better songs available but never ended up releasing them and this LP became their only document. The album is not bad, but I can see what he means. It was urban legend that the After Words LP bankrupted Sammich, but that is unsubstantiated. One interesting note about the cover artwork was that it was done by Jason Farrell, who has made more Dischord Records layout than you could ever understand.

I'm sure After Words got a lot of Rights of Spring comparisons, but I think they have much more in common with later 80's DC stuff like 3 or Senator Flux, post revolution summer but before the early 90's peak (Circus Lupus, NOU, Lungfish, etc.). I think the late 80's was a difficult time for this kind of music. Lots of chorus pedals, awkward lyrics and singing, meandering song structures. They seem to have a bit of that going on, but I think they did Atlanta proud and probably played some great shows. On the Live at WREK recording, they mention an upcoming show with 7 Seconds at the Wreck Room later that week, and I know they opened for Ignition, just to name a select few.