tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post2263525213373253274..comments2024-03-22T00:10:34.801-04:00Comments on Beyond Failure: The View: An Atlanta Compilation 1984 - 1990James Joycehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12716336694530802193noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-28992840887169991012013-12-08T22:34:47.301-05:002013-12-08T22:34:47.301-05:00HeyThanks for putting this up! Us Balrog folks wer...HeyThanks for putting this up! Us Balrog folks were fairly new at the time and we were really glad to be on a compilation with some of our favorite local bands. Also 'The View' was definitely a big part of what inspired me to put "The King Must Die" together - thanks for putting that up too! -BlakeBlakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04177129029977834274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-84848320543264760612013-10-28T08:54:14.146-04:002013-10-28T08:54:14.146-04:00Picked up mine right in the square I think..still ...Picked up mine right in the square I think..still have itkevin yountnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-8790002319456240992013-10-15T13:27:03.727-04:002013-10-15T13:27:03.727-04:00Oh yeah Chris Drash! And Tarmon Kelling. I saw t...Oh yeah Chris Drash! And Tarmon Kelling. I saw them open for Samhain at the plex in 86-87?<br />I lent a tape with all of their recordings on it to Scooter Collins in 1991 and never saw him again. clemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06717599258794583901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-9552769463759262192013-09-01T00:32:09.223-04:002013-09-01T00:32:09.223-04:00Hate to ask this years after it's been posted,...Hate to ask this years after it's been posted, but the download page is missing a track! I REALLY want to hear Neon Christ's Savior, but it's not on there. There's a "part two" zip (though no zip for part 1), plus the individual mp3s... except for track #2. <br /><br />Can you re-up the part 1 zip? Looks like an awesome comp.Ryanhttp://blueskiesabove.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-35400592044382350052010-06-10T17:05:35.517-04:002010-06-10T17:05:35.517-04:00James - I will look, but I am afraid they are long...James - I will look, but I am afraid they are long gone, but I will look. I do have some flyers from shows from that era and some pics somewhere of many of these bands. I am sure I have some recordings of the bands I was in (Inspired, Now or Never, Innocent Victims of Youth, Threshold), but we were really not that great. I will let you know if I find anything.Chris Foleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-29480793424753363292010-06-10T14:02:03.334-04:002010-06-10T14:02:03.334-04:00Hey Chris - this is amazing, thanks for the storie...Hey Chris - this is amazing, thanks for the stories, and compilation of course. Do you have any of the original tapes that these songs were excerpted from? I would love to get complete recordings of Ban KA, Gardens Of, pretty much every band on the list that hasn't been covered yet on the blog. Thanks again.James Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716336694530802193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-77864501612660998442010-06-10T09:42:38.115-04:002010-06-10T09:42:38.115-04:00Wow. Great to see a thread on this compilation. ...Wow. Great to see a thread on this compilation. I put a lot of time and effort into this comp. The summer after I graduated high school I was working a mundane temp job filling orders at truck parts warehouse where this idea cam to me to document all the great bands that I knew in the Atlanta scene at the time, but also make it kind of a history of the scene up until that point. Many of the bands I knew personally, but the bands prior to about 86, I had to do some research. The more I researched, the more bands I found. The original line-up was twice as long, but some of the recordings were really bad. Plus, some of the bands prior to about 85 represented a different era, in my opinion than the hardcore influenced bands of 86 - 90. <br /><br />I enlisted friends like Jeff, Doug, Steve, Scott, Brian and others to help with the artwork, distribution, etc. I basically did the work of compiling and taking it to tape warehouse to duplicate it. The others took it and ran with it. It was a total group effort.<br /><br />What I loved about doing it was meeting all kinds of people and getting a real sense of the Atlanta scene even prior to my involvement(pre 86). I wish I still had all of my notes and contacts from that time because i think it would have made a great beginning of a book about the underground music scene in Atlanta from the mid 70's until the 90's. It was a great time be in Atlanta and I have very fond memories of being around during that time. There were some great venues - 688, Sped's Old Exit, Phase 4, White Dot, Metroplex, Milos, Existentialist Church, The Pit, and many others. Also, there were great bands and zines - remember Nomadic Underground?<br /><br />My main goal was to secure Neon Christ's "Savior" for the comp and it happened! I think it was from a live show with the Dead Kennedy's at the Metroplex.<br /><br />Other bands that we wanted on the comp but either didn't make it because of space or couldn't secure the use of the song were - DDT, Doll Squad, The Slits, Final Offering, Burning Thought, Now or Never, Edgewood Automatics, Anti-heroes and I am sure there were others.Chris Foleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-19046305483674668742010-03-28T08:54:51.751-04:002010-03-28T08:54:51.751-04:00Everybody seems to have a similar story about gett...Everybody seems to have a similar story about getting this tape. Mine was on the street in Little 5 Points, you got it in the Food Court at Town Center Mall or somewhere. It's pretty cool to think about how industrious those guys were.James Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716336694530802193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-42418232128321745502010-03-27T19:58:42.598-04:002010-03-27T19:58:42.598-04:00I love this. I bought my copy at the mall in Kenne...I love this. I bought my copy at the mall in Kennesaw sometime in high school. The guy who was selling it near the food court was really nice. I still have it. Neon Christ was always my favorite bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-47584482476219874142010-02-14T12:43:26.013-05:002010-02-14T12:43:26.013-05:00Does anyone remember and/or know anything about a ...Does anyone remember and/or know anything about a tape comp. called "The Cradle Will Rock?" I found it at Wuxtry a few years ago and it has some pretty obscure Dischord stuff on it(One Last Wish, Dag nasty, Scream, Fugazi etc.). There's also some Toxic Reasons, C.O.C., Mercyland and more. Anyone?<br /><br />The label says that it is Red Glare Tapes #3, and the P.O. Box is a Decatur address.Chad Radfordhttp://www.clcribnotes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-34023720040895102232009-06-08T17:54:29.069-04:002009-06-08T17:54:29.069-04:00btw, Michell Watkins also played drums in Jumpstar...btw, Michell Watkins also played drums in JumpstartTim Beynarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825935679722581755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-1189455256441800502009-06-08T16:55:02.036-04:002009-06-08T16:55:02.036-04:00Full Frontal Nudity was Jesse Bransford (Gremlin X...Full Frontal Nudity was Jesse Bransford (Gremlin X, Oily-0, Drill) on bass, Matt Greene on guitar, and Mitchell Watkins on drums. Ca 1989. <br />I played drums in Face, and I suck(ed).Tim Beynarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825935679722581755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-58172541921805159092009-03-02T14:22:00.000-05:002009-03-02T14:22:00.000-05:00I believe that Ban KA went to Northsprings High Sc...I believe that Ban KA went to Northsprings High School and that Chris Drash (sp?) was in the band. He now owns 529 in East Atlanta.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this, I saw many of these bands in high school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-43175335186775527812009-02-27T18:45:00.000-05:002009-02-27T18:45:00.000-05:00'the view' was inspirational to me in that it cons...'the view' was inspirational to me in that it consolidated alot of bands that i respected onto one release and identified to me that which i wanted to a part of. my early bands were more on the metal side of the fence, although i was more interested in the punk scene and operated as such. i wanted to be in a band that would have been on 'the view', and that was realized when i joined forces with steve to start car vs. driver.Matt Mauldin https://www.blogger.com/profile/08730509895080535690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-6067661444994264642009-02-26T11:14:00.000-05:002009-02-26T11:14:00.000-05:00I was at that show, but I don't remember your band...I was at that show, but I don't remember your band. I think I found out about that show from Mike Haggerty. I used to sort of know him back in the early Fiddlehead days when he was a shelf stocker at Richway/Target in Tucker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-85686595628902099932009-02-25T20:02:00.000-05:002009-02-25T20:02:00.000-05:00Groundwork was a Dunwoody band with a guy named Br...Groundwork was a Dunwoody band with a guy named Brad playing guitar. Me, Mike Haggerty and Jeff Ferguson were in our first band with him, Burning Thought. I'm glad there's no recordings floating around from that band. We played one show with the Stickmen at a church way out beyond Snellville. I've still got a flyer from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-81985453787449787402009-02-23T16:05:00.000-05:002009-02-23T16:05:00.000-05:00I saw the Stickmen four or five times. Always at ...I saw the Stickmen four or five times. Always at a high school or community center someone had rented out for a show. The last two times I saw them they had a percussionist in the band. I saw them play Santana's "Soul Sacrifice" in the Tucker High School lunchroom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-56678984607043350512009-02-23T13:08:00.000-05:002009-02-23T13:08:00.000-05:00Kim (aka Squidchip) from Pineal Ventana had this c...Kim (aka Squidchip) from Pineal Ventana had this comment, although he is having some IT issue at the moment and can't post it himself:<BR/><BR/>I don't know much bout Ban KA except that the first bass player in Pineal Ventana, Brian Cook, was in Ban KA.<BR/>I saw them play once at the old Exit Club on Dekalb Ave with Neon Christ in '85.James Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716336694530802193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-87495124533913875132009-02-23T12:47:00.000-05:002009-02-23T12:47:00.000-05:00Ted at Full Moon Records used to have a label call...Ted at Full Moon Records used to have a label called Third Eye. He put out a No Walls cd as his first release. Full Moon probably has a bunch of copies since No Walls broke up right after the cd came out. I'm pretty sure he still has a bunch of No Walls t-shirts, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-77025672497942050442009-02-23T12:32:00.000-05:002009-02-23T12:32:00.000-05:00thank you so much for posting this!! very excited ...thank you so much for posting this!! very excited to have it.sassyassyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00195283435808180529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6469040123326158640.post-29022908251570920702009-02-22T19:23:00.000-05:002009-02-22T19:23:00.000-05:00The story behind "The View". Several of ...The story behind "The View". Several of us at the time felt that Atlanta not only had a great upcoming crop of punk bands, but a great history of punk bands as well that weren't being heard. The effort mostly lead by Jeff Ferguson, Doug Ahern, Chris Foley,Kip Thomas, and myself was to create a comp that showcased the great bands of Atlanta's recent past and its current ones. From the proceeds of the comp we would begin to put out records and build an Atlanta punk label - following the model of DC and Dischord. We made 500 tapes and sold them for $5. We sold out in a couple of months. The money then was funneled into the first Fiddlehead 7" and the Bag of Jakes comp 7". Some money from the comp also went into the Wrong Answer 7" but it was mostly financed by me personally. <BR/><BR/>So The View was also the birth of Lunchbox Records. Although originally a collaborative effort amongst a group, most dropped out quickly leaving me and Doug running things - then it was only me. <BR/><BR/>Chris and Doug did most of the work on compiling the bands here and getting copies of the songs and permission to put them on the comp. So a couple of the bands I didn't know that well or have more than what was given for the comp, but here is summary of some of the bands:<BR/><BR/>BAN K.A. - old Atlanta band that I don't remember who was in it or what they did after, but one guy in the band ended up demanding money from us and threatened to sue us after the comp can out. I think we paid him $50-$100 or something. If I remember the story correctly Phil Phons from the song was some skeezy promoter in Atlanta that everyone hated. <BR/><BR/>Neon Christ - the forefathers, the legends, one of the greatest Atlanta punk bands in my opinion. I loved this song from the second I heard the opening note. When car vs. driver decided to do a cover I knew immediately that this was the song I wanted to do. Matt was immediately on board and when we asked James so was he. Jonathan had never heard it though, so we played it for him and it was unanimous. This song is just so gritty and the style and sound of Kip's guitar is just incredible. <BR/><BR/>Gardens Of... - this was Neon Christ minus Kip and Jimmy moving from drums up to guitar. This band was amazing, but the song here was later day Gardens Of... and doesn't really capture how amazing this band really was. I have a live recording of them that is just incredible. Just think of Neon Christ continuing to progress and that is what the live recording is like. <BR/><BR/>After Words - another of my all time favorite Atlanta bands. <BR/><BR/>Stickmen - I saw play once or twice. Great band. Some members went on to One Soul Down, but after that I don't know. <BR/><BR/>Jumpstart - Kip Bohannon's band prior to Third Season/Fiddlehead. I love this song!!! Wish they had recorded more. Maybe Bruce has some tapes we should get from him.<BR/><BR/>Dead Elvis - always a great and fun band to see live. Put out 7" and there is Live at WREK recording of them also. <BR/><BR/>Kicker Boys - they put out a great 14 song album. If you can find it, buy it!<BR/><BR/>Threshold - as James said they were a really religious band. Chris Foley I believe was in this band and the reason they are on here because he helped put the comp together. This band was either post or prior to Now or Never -another Chris Foley religious punk band. <BR/><BR/>Face - this was Geoey Cook's band prior to Fiddlehead. He might have more recordings from this band also to share. <BR/><BR/>Third Season - this was pre-Fiddlehead (Kip, Mike, & Bruce) with Jason on vocals. Great poppy DC-emo band. James has a post coming of their recordings. <BR/><BR/>Such As - well we have much better songs that we recorded so I don't know why we put this one on here. Got to live with the decision though. I was 17, Scott and Brian were 15. I stopped signing lead vocals after this band, this song is a good example why! One day I will get the Such As recordings to James for him to post. <BR/><BR/>Wrong Answer - Atlanta's version of an East Bay Lookout band. Put out a 7" on Lunchbox.<BR/><BR/>Act of Faith - pre-Rob song. Everyone knows Act of Faith so not much to add here. <BR/><BR/>No Walls - just amazing song that once again shows how much of an incredible guitarist Kip Duvall is. After Neon Christ, Kip was briefly in B'last (the SST band), then Final Offering, and No Walls. <BR/><BR/>Groundwork, Full Frontal Nudity, and Balrog I don't really remember much about at all. I think the guys in Fiddlehead know more about them though. <BR/><BR/>So there are obviously a lot of other great bands from the 1984-1990 era that didn't make the comp, but this still remains a good overview what existed at that time. <BR/><BR/>SteveSwisharthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05009208984469060761noreply@blogger.com